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  A Challenge for Jehovahs Witness Apologists : Identify What Jesus Christ Has Accomplished In His Nearly Complete 100 Year Reign From 1914

  by smiddy in

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  2. beliefs

  i for one would be very interested , if you can quantify what his acheivements have been , these past almost 100 years .. incidental acheivements could do for a start ,.

  followed by more meaningfull acheivements ,.

  then to top it off , with his major acheivements that he can be accredited with these past 99 years of his kingdom rule ,.

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  He's almost completely eliminated polio, malaria and river-blindness... no, wait, that was MEDICAL SCIENCE, wasn't it?
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  Blood sausage

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while visiting our neighbors across the pond, i visited a butcher store to rustle up something for supper.

  that was the first time i had ever seen blood sausage.

  we just never see it over here in the states.. when a witness leaves the organization over there, do they all eat blood sausage once again?

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  Nathan Natas

  Stand for Pure Worship, it comes as no surprise to me that your ignorance spans many fields of human endevor, not just theology.

  They are not "hog moss," they are hog maws... the stomach of a pig.

  If you've ever had a hot dog that "snapped" when you bit into it, you consumed pig ears, jowls, snout, feet, tails, etc., ground into a tasty seasoned pink paste then stuffed into a pig intestine.

  Bon Appétit, goofball!
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  Blood sausage

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while visiting our neighbors across the pond, i visited a butcher store to rustle up something for supper.

  that was the first time i had ever seen blood sausage.

  we just never see it over here in the states.. when a witness leaves the organization over there, do they all eat blood sausage once again?

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  Nathan Natas

  I live in Seattle, and I can find blood sausage and black headcheese anytime I want it.

  I make a point of having some every once in a while just to make sure that the Akashic Record shows my complete defiance of the Noachian Covenant, also known as the Rainbow Covenant.

  I have also donated blood for medical use, thereby "feeding" ghod-knows -how-many people.

  I believe there is a psychological benefit in defying irrational fears such as the fear of blood that we were taught by the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, otherwise known as the Ancient Israelite wing of Christendom.

  By the way, to me blood sausage and black headcheese are NOT delicious. I don't crave them, they are part of a ritual of rationalism.

  Come! Drink the water of life (blood) freely with me!
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  Did Jehovah's Witnesses Plagiarize HWA's False Prophecy Of 1975?

  by Bangalore in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  did jehovah's witnesses plagiarize hwa's false prophecy of 1975?.

  http://livingarmstrongism.blogspot.com/2013/10/did-jehovahs-witnesses-plagiarize-hwas.html.

  bangalore.

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  This Old Goat agrees with OldGoat (above) that it is simply a coincidence that both cults picked the same date.

  The thing that matters is HOW they arrived at the date 1975, and the Watchtower's Bible-based© Chronology provided the magical arithmetic framework for the selection of 1975 since at least 1918, when H. W. A. was about 20 years old, and it wasn't until the late 1930s that the WWCOG was established.

  HWA's theology was largely influenced by the Church of God, Seventh Day which is a distant cousin of Watchtower theology.

  In 1931 Armstrong became an ordained minister of the Oregon Conference of the Church of God (Seventh Day).

  1975 in Prophecy was a warning to the reader of what was scheduled to happen after February 1972 . The timeline was uncertain and, although the title of the booklet was specific, 1975 was not mentioned in the text in relation to Biblical prophecy. All specific dates within the booklet were in relation to events or outcomes not specified by the Bible. The biblical prophecies are ambiguous as to their timing.

  The booklet was written in 1956 during the Cold War years. It stated that the United States of America, the United Kingdom, Australia and other English speaking ("Israelite") nations, contrary to popular cultural belief, would neither be attacked nor destroyed by the Soviet Union, but that a nuclear World War III would destroy these countries. The attack would come from a German dominated United States of Europe led by a Nazi-style dictator (identified as The Beast), and dominated by a religious leader who would probably be a Roman Catholic Pope identified as the Antichrist.
  In the aftermath of the nuclear attack one third of the populations would be dead. Another third would then die as a result of simultaneous attacks from abnormal weather patterns which would create drought, destruction and epidemic diseases. The remaining third would then be taken into slave labor camp captivity by the United States of Europe.

  http://www.cgca.net/pabco/5proph.jpg

  [above, an illustration from 1975 in Prophecy. The illo is the work of Van Wolverton, who followed HWA and illustrated horror comic books for a living]

  Thanks to wikipedia for most of the content above.
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  Hello, how are you, see you, good bye

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday i was at a supermarket and i walked right in the arms of a nice jw couple.. they are so nice, they could be our family friends, if we went to the congregation.. how it went: mr nice walked by and said "hello" and walked straight on, without looking to me.. his very nice wife smiled and looked surprised to see me, a look only a jw can have, looking to a poor fader like me.. she said "hello, how are you?

  see you, good bye?

  how can these nice people so cold?.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jeXcaRYNlSQ
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  They Need War Now

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/26/israel-issues-warning-to-iran-over-nuclear-bomb-report/?intcmp=latestnews.

  there have been similar headlines on usa today and the drudgereport.. they need ww3 and they need it now.. the israelis understand what will likely happen if peace with iran breaks out.

  there will be a movement towards eliminating all nuclear weapons in the middle east and the intensification of declaring 'apartheid' as regards the palestinians.. in other words, the practical end of israel as a zionist state.. in addition, there are senators who lust for war (lindsay graham, etc) they realize that the fog of war would move the us towards becoming a full police state, eliminating what's left of the bill of rights and distracting the whole nation from its failing economy.. i think it's too late for a phony false flag attack - to blame iran for some made-up terrorist attack.

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  Nathan Natas

  "The plural of 'anecdote' is DATA"

  When you reach a tipping point with anecdotal experiences, the consensus reality changes.
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  Who are doing Jehovah's will today? Brochure

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this brochure is being studied, in the org starting form this week.

  it rams lies down our throats, trying to convince us the the wt is god's organisation.

  it lies to us about how the wt is doing jehovah's will.. we are going to be subjected to lies, lies and more lies for weeks.

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  Nathan Natas

  Next brochure: "Who today are resisting the evil influence of Sparlock?"
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  2004 JW Elder Molested his Granddaughter

  by xelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.svherald.com/content/michael-sullivan/2004/12/12/295423.

  not sure if this one ever made it to this forum.. .

  i personally knew this family.

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  Nathan Natas

  Snare & Racket said it best.
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  Is everyone required to be enrolled in the theocratic ministry school?

  by hoser in

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  2. friends

  can a publisher "drop out" and still be in good standing?.

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  Nathan Natas

  In just a few years I will be celebrating 50 years since I was in the WT Borganism, but as I recall, no one was *required* to join the TMS, but it was considered a sign of "spiritual progress".

  Like the Chinese Finger Trap, once in it is difficult to withdraw. The best strategy is to begin missing a bunch of assigned talks, which means that someone else will have to prepare a talk with only minutes notice. After a few of these stunts they will probably be happy to let you go.

  As I recall, that was part of how I went from Pioneer/MS to zero in a brief time. I didn't want drama, I just wanted OUT.
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  I'm Taking A "Newly Interested One" To Her First Meeting

  by Zandor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been out of the organization for quite a number of years, and still feel that uneasy feeling that was washed into every cell of my being by wt indoctrination since birth.

  never seems to go away completely, does it?.

  i use to feel the need to talk about my experience in the organization to others, to worldlies, and they never quite seem to understand.

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  Nathan Natas

  What the hell is a "JewBu"?